Ezra Klein and Liam Donovan discuss Donald Trump's strategy to maintain influence within the Republican party, even without holding the highest office. Donovan explains Trump's goal is to ensure the GOP's continued dependence on him.

“You can be the kingmaker even when you’re not the king,” argues the Opinion columnist Ezra Klein. The Republican strategist Liam Donovan joins “The Ezra Klein Show” to explain that Trump’s core strategy is ensuring a vulnerable G.O.P. can never abandon him.